Skip to main content

Oral history recording of Nick Laird interviewed by Jaime Valentine: file 4, 2006

 Item
Identifier: TD.3658[AA015]

Scope and Contents

00:00 First relationship: Alison, 10 years older, worked at Celino’s Italian restaurant, Glasgow. Alison seemed rich and freer. Met at Bennets in October 1989: the following June, Alison asked N to move in. N afraid to tell Mum, so told her and left home day after: little brother affected. When N shares coming out story, would say Mum accepting because not emotional, ‘nothing happened’.

03:54 Moved in with Alison, got job at same restaurant: N had little experience of restaurants, took months to fit in. Worked and lived with Alison for seven years. Relationship with Alison: work and alcohol. Seemed false as N’s ‘lesbian identity’ was constructed: N edited past, no deep conversations. Close for the first year, non-sexual the last four years, unhappy but familiar. N loved Alison, still friends. Alcohol made it easy to be superficial. Intimate relationship but didn’t talk closely: N denied past, and much of talk was probably lies, so cannot remember now.

10:07 Films: N loved ‘Thelma and Louise’; a documentary impacted N. Felt trapped in relationship and job, didn’t see an alternative, though knew Alison was unhappy. Only knew Alison’s friends: normalised working and getting drunk.

13:28 Anxiety and panic attacks: felt like losing self. Couldn’t explain to doctor; describes physical symptoms. N thought it was physical not mental health: didn’t know about mental health issues. N self-medicated with ‘herbal quiet life tablets’. N’s anxiety challenging for Alison too. N finds it hard to remember: ‘so numb or so lost’.

16:37 Documentary on Channel Four ‘The Decision’ [‘The Wrong Body’, 1996] about a female-to-male trans kid Fred. Amsterdam trans men’s group. N familiar with male-to-female transition, had never heard of female-to-male. Identified with Fred, but his parents were supportive. N felt ‘that’s what I need to do… that’s me… a man trapped in a woman’s body’, but doubtful as comfortable with genitals. Watched documentary repeatedly. Broadcast about a year before N split with Alison.

20:11 Transitioning seemed impossible, terrifying. N worried about others - Alison, work, family - felt it would require a fresh start with people who didn’t know. Sister and N talked about documentary: sister thought of N throughout viewing. N told sister ‘that’s what I want to do’: sister made it easy for N. This was the beginning. Didn’t tell other people. Dressed less neutral, more masculine: tried to ‘perform masculinity’, ‘start living as male’. People noticed but didn’t say.

24:08 End of relationship with Alison, not because of transitioning: N suggested couldn’t go on and Alison agreed, which shocked and terrified N. Moved back in with Mum, nowhere else to go. N applied to college and left work: linked with transition, worried about customers. N wanted to go to university: no expectation when young being from Bellshill, now felt capable and thought best place to transition, could be anonymous. N devastated after end of relationship with Alison. Felt had to go back, start again but try it differently. N and Mum didn’t speak.

Dates

  • Creation: 2006

Creator

Conditions Governing Access

Normal access conditions apply.

Conditions Governing Use

Normal reproduction conditions apply, subject to any copyright restrictions.

Extent

150901.696 Megabytes

Repository Details

Part of the National Library of Scotland Archives and Manuscripts Division Repository

Contact:
Archives and Manuscript Division
National Library of Scotland
George IV Bridge
Edinburgh EH1 1EJ
0131 623 3700